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Doing more than just winging it.
Sep 13th, 2007 by Leslie
Leslie There’s a Children’s Chore carnival going on today at “Don’t Try This at Home”. Many bloggers are contributing their ideas to the age-old issue of kids’ chores. Here’s some personal learning and preferences from more than 3 years using our system with our 4 kids and discussing this with a great many Active Allowance members. I’ve tried to distill a ton of stuff down to just a few core thoughts…..really!….this is the pared back version! First, some key underlying principles, then the high level mechanics of how it works.

We’re a team

I love teaching our kids that we’re a team and we each have a role to play in making the family unit successful (fill in your personal definition of “successful” here). Mum and/or Dad may be the ones whose role is to earn income externally, and the kids’ primary role is to go to school and learn. However, there are many areas where the kids can share in the family effort and therefore earn their share in the family income.

Responsibilities, not chores

I see chores in a broader role – that’s why I instead prefer to call them Responsibilities. It’s not just about getting jobs done – it’s about the kids’ role in helping the family run better in an age appropriate manner. For younger kids, that might include lowering the family temperature in the morning by being ready for carpool with no nagging. For older kids, it might be more traditional chores like walking the dog.

Shoulds, wants and realities

We want our kids to help around the house because of their keen sense of appreciation for what we do for them…..they should do it because of their responsibility as a citizen of the home…..and because of a range of other intrinsic motivations…..but kids will be kids. Socialism is a warm, wonderful “wish” too, but it also doesn’t work in reality.

Behavior normally follows Attitude – you feel a certain way so you behave accordingly. But how do you create change? Dale Carnegie teaches something that seems counter-intuitive – that Attitude can follow Behavior. If you “Act enthusiastic (a behavior), you’ll be enthusiastic (an attitude)”. The idea is that if you want to feel a certain way, try changing your behavior – it’s a lot easier to change behavior than it is to change attitude…..and that a changed attitude will follow.

With Responsibilities linked to Allowance and perhaps other rewards, we may initially be working on the behavior part, but we can see in our children that with consistency and constant reinforcement, it’s showing up in our their attitudes as well (admittedly after several years).

Connecting Responsibilities and Allowance

This is a super-charged issue – experts and parents are hotly divided (and often sanctimonious) on whether allowance should be linked to completion of chores. Read the rest of this entry »

Off Topic – Energy from Water
Sep 12th, 2007 by Harvey
Wow. I know there’s a long, uncertain path to bring an invention from lab scale to production scale….but can you imagine the possibilities! Energy from salt water – I thought you might be interested. Check out this news item.

Why give your kids an Allowance?
Sep 6th, 2007 by Harvey
You’ve probably already heard a great many reasons for why an allowance makes sense for kids. Without going through the whole laundry list yet again, here are a couple of important ones worth emphasizing:
  1. Creating many “Teaching Moments”: Unlike parental education about the birds and the bees (usually a one-time discussion; future attempts receive an “Eewwww!”), this is a subject that needs to be discussed on an ongoing basis over many years (e.g. making spending choices, saving for a goal, charity, etc). That means that parents need to create a sustainable system that will cause earning/spending/saving/sharing issues to arise and be discussed in a positive way…..the “Teaching Moments”.
  2. Preaching vs Doing: It’s important to make this learning part of everyday life. I’m not sure about your kids, but mine seem to be impervious to “preaching” (especially from Dad), but they learn amazingly well by “doing”.
Just a thought for the day :-)

Rich Boy Poor Boy: the saga continues
Aug 27th, 2007 by Harvey

OK. I’m exulting. We just had a fantastic time visiting Canada’s Wonderland, a huge amusement park near Toronto, with our 9 and 11 year olds.

You may recall Poor Boy – he’s still poor and rebelling. But his 9 year old brother is comparatively rich (he takes after our 13 year old).

When we went to the park, they understood that Mum ‘n Dad cover the cost of park entrance (includes rides) and lunch. But if they want to play arcade games, it’s on their dime and they’d have to write a check from their Active Allowance account as soon as they got home.

Rich Boy

Well, Rich Boy chose to spend $5.00 throwing 2 basketballs….missing of course. But there wasn’t a peep nor a nay from Mum ‘n Dad. Not even when he spent another $4.00 trying to ring the bell with a sledgehammer. It was his money to spend (full disclosure – I REALLY had to bite my lip. What a colossal waste!!).

Poor Boy

And not a peep from Poor Boy. He looked longingly at the basketballs…currently his 2nd favorite sport. But he knew he had no money, so he couldn’t play – he could only step back and watch. So sad…..but what a great teaching moment. Another step on the path to his understanding that earnings and savings might actually have some merit.

We spent over 6 hours at the park and didn’t hear one “gimme”.

As Hannibal Smith used to say on the A-Team TV show: “I love it when a plan comes together” :-)

PS. Rich Boy was later heard to said to his brother on the way home “those games were a big waste of money”. And I don’t think he was just trying to make his brother feel better. Both kids learned something today!

Welcome to Quicken Kids & Money Members
Aug 26th, 2007 by Harvey
Leslie & Harvey

Recently, we’ve seen many Quicken Kids & Money members join Active Allowance. A hearty “Welcome” to all of you!

It seems that, Intuit, the company behind Quicken, have shuttered the Quicken Kids & Money site, deciding to focus resources on their core corporate business lines.

We have to admit – we admired Quicken Kids and Money….and were also a little envious of their enormous budget. They did an outstanding job of helping parents teach children financial literacy. The world needs more of this.

And we also admired them because they espoused many similar views to our own. Quicken Kids & Money was skewed more towards advice, while Active Allowance is skewed more toward online, flexible tools…but the core philosophies are similar.

We know there’s a real need for this kind of service – our members tell us this every day. So we plan to continue to meet this need. And since our youngest is only 9 (we’re heavy users ourselves), we’ll be doing this for a very, very long time!

Off Topic – Shadow Puppets
Aug 26th, 2007 by Harvey
This one’s off topic, but what a great shadow puppet show (from Australia). The Louis Armstrong imitation is amazing. And I don’t know about you but I find the Parent/Child sequence is moving!

Rich Boy, Poor Boy and Economics 101?
Aug 21st, 2007 by Harvey
So I think this is a good thing but I’ll let you decide. Rich Boy Rich Boy

Our 13 year old is a great saver, diligent about doing his chores and fulfilling his responsibilities, and even remembers to check things off on his Active Allowance checklists. As a result, he usually earns his entire allowance and often earns bonuses. And when he babysits, he asks us to put it into his big ticket item account so he wouldn’t be tempted to spend it on movies. This summer, he finally bought that big ticket item – an electric guitar.

End of story, great lesson learned, right? Well….right, but there’s more to the story…..

Poor BoyPoor Boy

Our 11 year old is also pretty diligent about his chores and responsibilities. But as soon as he has some money in his Family Bank Account (note for non-members: it’s on Active Allowance), it manages to burn a hole in his pocket. And to make matters worse, he hates filling out the checklist….so he hasn’t been doing it. And therefore earns no allowance. He still does his chores – he knows there will be non-allowance consequences if he doesn’t. But he just doesn’t fill out the checklist (go figure!).

We’ve hung tough, so when he wants to buy something, our simple answer is “Do you have the money?”.

The Drama Drama

Last week, Poor Boy came downstairs with a few gift cards in his hands – he’d previously received some as gifts and some as prizes for winning squash tournaments. He asked me if I’d “buy” them from him. I smiled, told him I’d buy the one from an electronics store since we needed a new DVD player. But not the one from the music store.

So he went to 13 year old Rich Boy to see if he had a buyer. No dice. Then a brain wave. “I know you want to buy a DVD of a rock concert. I’ll sell you a $25 card for $20.”

That was brilliant! Necessity – the mother of invention. He managed to figure out on his own some basic principles of economics, use his salesmanship and demonstrate resourcefulness. I’m not quite ready to put this on his college application, but not bad!

The LearningThe Learning

Rich Boy said yes. And now Poor Boy has $20 cash instead of an unwanted gift card. Rich Boy learned cash is king. Poor Boy learned about market principles. Both of them won.

And we learned again that sticking with our Allowance and Responsibilities process and making it part of everyday life teaches the kids important lessons – even when it’s not initially apparent.

Mind you, now that Poor Boy has sold off his “assets, I sure hope he gets into “earning” mode real soon! Stay tuned for future episodes in the ongoing saga.

Active Allowance Upgrade
Aug 3rd, 2007 by Harvey
We’re pleased to announce we’ve just installed a significant upgrade to Active Allowance with the following member-requested features:
  • ability to upload your child’s picture: Once uploaded, the picture will show up on your home page, on your child’s home page, and in the not too distant future, on your child’s Checklist page (we’re improving that too, but it will take a little longer). Our kids have seen the test versions and can’t wait! Read the rest of this entry »

Teens doing chores: Mission possible? – Part II
Jul 27th, 2007 by Harvey
Here are are a few more ideas, following up on last week’s article, to help you implement a chores/allowance system with your teen.
  1. Petty Cash = more autonomy

    If you’re using a system like Active Allowance, with a virtual Family Bank instead of a piggy bank, be sure to let them know they can write a check for “spending money” any time they want so they can have cash in their wallet……and they don’t have to tell you each thing they buy.

    In our case, I mistakenly thought our 14 year old understood this but I never explained it explicitly. It was the source of a great amount of unstated frustration for her which festered over several months and created unnecessary animosity towards the system. It took a while to get back on track.

  2. Add longer term goals

    Older kids are able to work towards longer term goals. Next week, I’ll write about an idea we used successfully with our 13 year old this past year – the “big-ticket item”.

  3. A couple more thoughts, mostly specific to Active Allowance members:

  4. Make each point significant

    There’s a danger with teens that, if a point’s not worth much, they can too easily shrug it off (“I don’t need to do that thing today”). The type of checklist where there are many responsibility items all in one category, and the total points add up to a small number, usually works best.

    By doing this, you’d be telling your teen “I’ve kept the list small, to relatively few important things, but if you don’t do them, it has a significant impact on your allowance. It’s important to us that you do them”.

  5. Consider not including Homework on the list

    If your kids haven’t developed the homework habit by the time they’re teens, connecting it to allowance will not likely make much of a difference.

    While all family philosophies are different, we don’t include homework on the list for any of our children. However, for the younger ones, we do include “homework finished by 6:00 pm” as a bonus item to earn an extra point. And for all our kids, we also give bonus points for finishing major projects (yikes!) early. And it works! Each of our kids accomplished this herculean task twice this year. And they’ve lived to tell the tale :-)

Teens doing chores: Mission Possible?
Jul 19th, 2007 by Harvey
HarveyHere’s a question we often get at Active Allowance:
“Any idea how we can inspire our 13-yr old to actually cooperate with our new allowance & chores system?”

There’s no doubt it’s tougher to get teens started on a new system if they never had chores or responsibilities when they were younger. Nevertheless, we do have members who tell us they’ve had good success. Before I elaborate, here’s a brain teaser: Try to distinguish between teenagers’ “Yecch’s” and the “Yay’s” for the following words:

  • autonomy
  • chores
  • responsibilities
  • money
  • freedom
  • micromanagement
Hmmmm, I think I probably have the same “Yecch’s” and “Yay’s”. We all do some things not because we love them, but because we know we they need to be done. That’s pretty mature and rational.

I know it sounds unlikely to some parents, but teenagers CAN often be mature and rational too……but you may need to connect the dots for them. The key is to accentuate the positives – more freedom to decide what they buy, more opportunities to earn extra, more clarity and consistency from Mom and Dad, as just a few examples.

There are no hard and fast rules as to what will work for your kids and your family since a) all kids are different and b) there are so many different family philosophies on this subject. Nevertheless, here are a few things to consider:

  1. Try hard to achieve “buy-in” up front

    This is best accomplished by Involving your teen in its creation.

    For the allowance, create a mini-budget, making it clear how much spending power you’re shifting into his hands and in what areas. Also make it clear what he needs to do to earn extra. This is usually pretty exciting and empowering. For a teen, it’s called “freedom”!

    And – especially important – collaborate on creating the chores/responsibilities list too – don’t just hand her a finished version of what you’d like to see. Seek her input and ideas. You can use it as an opportunity to teach her the importance of sharing the family effort as well as help her connect the dots.

    Out of the box tip: Sometimes teens suggest a tough task (I’ll wash the floor EVERY DAY!). Resist the urge to rub your hands with glee, or murmur mwah-ha-ha. Consider rejecting it or making it easier, at least temporarily. You might say “Let’s agree to add that one next month” or even reject it altogether. You will be modeling reasonableness which, in turn, encourages buy-in.

  2. Avoid Micromanagement

    With younger kids, a Chores list is more about getting them into good daily habits so it may need to be long and detailed. But once they’re teenagers, they typically rebel against being micromanaged. I would keep your chores/responsibilities checklist short and focused on those areas you really want to see improved (eg. for our ultra-busy, always-late 14 yr old daughter, we included “eating a healthy breakfast”).
  3. Reinforce why and how this system is working for them

    For example, when they buy something you normally wouldn’t have agreed to (eg an extra-expensive pair of shoes), remind them they would not have been able to do this without the chores and allowance system in place. By the way, this goes for the younger kids too but it’s especially important to reinforce it with the older kids.
  4. Review and adjust

    Be sure to have an open conversation with your teen about his likes and dislikes about the system, especially after the first month or two (and perhaps check in quarterly afterwards). To be sure, many kids want a totally free ride – get an allowance with no responsibilities. However, assuming that’s not on the table, you may have a useful conversation about how you can mutually tweak the system to work better for your situation.
…..to be continued next week –>

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